[MACEP] in home network w/ crossover cables??

JeanineDuBois jbdubois at teleport.com
Mon Feb 27 18:07:12 PST 2006


Wow! All kinds of great tricks.

Thank you!
--Jeanine

On Sunday, February 26, 2006, at 10:00  PM, radams at lane.k12.or.us wrote:

> Two more things you could try:
>
>    If both of them have a FireWire connection, use T-Target mode.
>
>     1. Connect the Firewire cable between them (must be the D shaped  
> plug on
> both ends.  I borrow one from an external drive temporarily.
>     2.  Take the computer that you want to send files TO and start it  
> up
> normally.
>     3. Take the one they are coming FROM and start it up but hold down  
> the T
> key after you hear the bell.
>     4.  The FROM computer will start up with the FireWire symbol and  
> on the TO
> computer, you'll suddenly see the hard drive icon for the FROM  
> computer.
> Open it up and copy files back and forth as you wish.
>    This is also a dandy technique to use when a computer isn't booting  
> right
> and you desperately need the files from it.  Make the damaged computer  
> the
> FROM computer you start up holding down the T key.  Many times the hard
> drive will be good enough to show up on the other computer, even if it
> can't boot.  This technique works if you have a FireWire cable, no  
> matter
> what the OS version.
>
>
> Other, older version: Sneaker Net.
>
>   Get a 1 Gb or smaller "thumb drive" (1 Gb advertised for $40 in the  
> Sunday
> computer store ads this morning, either Office Depot, Office Max, or
> Staples, or Best Buy), load the things you want to transfer onto the  
> drive,
> put on your sneakers, walk to the other machine and reverse the  
> process.
>
> This technique is so old it originally had you using 5 1/4 inch  
> floppies for
> the transfers.
>
> Another technique: Use CD-ROMs more than once with "Sessions"
>
> I use Toast and burning sessions is easy.  There is a way to do this  
> using the
> native OS-X and 9.2.2 burn modes, but you have to use the HELP menu to  
> find
> it.
>
> Burn it once, then again, then again -- each new time you put the CD  
> into the
> computer, you get a CD icon for each of your sessions.  In a PC, you  
> normally
> would only see the latest session as the only thing on the disk.
>
> Also, you might want to look at those Sunday specials and not pay over  
> 5 - 10
> cents for each CD.  That's much cheaper than floppies.  I remember  
> paying
> $7.50 for one blank 5 1/4 inch floppy in the 80s.
>
> Richard Adams
> Pleasant Hill School District
>
>
>>
>> On Sat, February 25, 2006 10:57 pm, JeanineDuBois wrote:
>>> Hi, folks!
>>>
>>> Way back when (probably not quite a decade ago), I
>>> remember using a
>>> crossover cable to network two computers and share (copy
>>> via network)
>>> files. I'm thinking that would be a handy way of doing
>>> back-ups at home
>>> these days, since burning CD's would get expensive, and my
>>> zip disks
>>> only hold so much space. I'm running Mac OS X and also Mac
>>> OS 8.6. Any
>>> thoughts on how and if to use a crossover cable to network
>>> them or to
>>> network 2 Macs running OS X? And anyone remember / know
>>> what the
>>> distinguishing marks are on the cable to designate
>>> crossover versus
>>> Ethernet? I've got 3 cables with the cat 5 size ends, and
>>> I'm pretty
>>> sure one of them is a crossover cable.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any insights you can offer,
>>> --Jeanine
>>>
>>
>> How recent is the Mac with OS X? Most Macs from the past
>> few years have network cards that will auto-sense the
>> connection type and configure them selves appropriately.
>> I've used non-crossover cables to directly connect my
>> iBook to other Macs as well as to PCs. I've also used
>> cross-over cables (in a pinch) when a normal cable was
>> what I should have needed. If one of the Macs is less than
>> 2 or three years old, I don't think it matters what cable
>> you use.
>>
>> You will have to configure IP addresses on both computers,
>> though.
>>
>> --
>> Arne Berglund
>> Lane ESD Internet Services
>> aberglun at lane.k12.or.us
>> (541) 461-8343
>>
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